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Daniel Penisten posted a note 2012-06-18 12:55:30 -0700
I hope a lawyer or "legal assistant" will be at the Congress to help with the language of the petition. But then again, I hope the petition will not become a legalese nightmare.
Daniel Penisten commented on End Corporate Control of Our Politicians 2012-06-11 11:36:37 -0700 · Flag
It might be that “End Corporate Control Of Our Politicians”, has not been included in the main grievances page. They are two different, but related things.

Is a corporation just one “person”? One great big one like the “Borge” in Star Trek?

I feel like “Ending Corporate Control Of Our Politicians” is the more difficult of the two tasks. Probably more important too. Education can help Our Future Politicians become more corporation influence proof. At least this problem can be addressed on an Individual by Individual basis.

Some personality types would have a better chance to resist corruption than others. Know Thyself and Know Each Other.
Daniel Penisten commented on End Corporate Control of Our Politicians 2012-05-28 16:08:20 -0700 · Flag
I just noticed this sentence at the bottom of this issue item:
“Crony-Capitalism, also known as Corporatism, must be replaced with the republican democracy our founders envisioned or the “murder of our republic” will be complete."

Capitalism, as corporations, ( evolving out of mercantilism and aristocracy) was well under way when The Framers gave Us the beginnings of a “Republic”. And it wasn’t a Democratic Republic either. Is the word “Democracy” in the Declaration Of Independence" or the “American Constitution”?

I do believe that Thomas Jefferson spoke of Democracy in his writings, but I’m not sure where.

What was the attitude in the “Federalist Papers” regarding “Democracy”?
Daniel Penisten commented on End Corporate Control of Our Politicians 2012-05-28 15:57:10 -0700 · Flag
I agree Mr. Whitworth. But I thought this page was about “one issue”? One issue with multiple related elements. Isn’t this page saying the same thing as what you are saying? But just itemizing more of that which would keep “…our hands full just doing this…”?
Daniel Penisten commented on What are the draft grievances? 2012-05-28 15:43:10 -0700 · Flag
Well said Timothy Price. The only additional thing that some of Us might be able to do is offer rewards to “Whistleblowers” and aid and give them asylum from persecution.

I also agree with Joseph Vadalma in distributing this important information to We The People. but go beyond the media that is controlled by the government and corporate interests. If one can, print out and distribute copies of this information in your communities. At the bottom of each copy, ask the reader to make a few copies more and also distribute them.

Try reading this information at Senior Citizen Centers, Civic Clubs and doughnut shops. Our local doughnut shop has lots of civic minded Senior Citizens that usually talk about social and political matters. A lot of them are Conservative by nature though.
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All of these steps will help with this problem, but it is still going to be very difficult to keep private interest wealth out of government pockets. They still have their backrooms and golf courses to sneak around in.

I believe the only ultimate solution to this problem is the building of strong moral and ethical character in those who would be Citizens of this nation and its government leaders. Diligent Education and wise selection of “Quality Human Beings” might help Us achieve what We need to achieve for Our Nation.

But We need to construct guidelines, standards and lifelong educational records of Individuals for this quest.

We all have to become More and Better, for Our Nation to become More and Better. It starts with us.
Daniel Penisten commented on What are the draft grievances? 2012-05-21 18:10:08 -0700 · Flag
All of the grievances listed above are worthy of Our consideration and support. They are all steps in the right direction. I am supportive of all of this good work and more.
Daniel Penisten commented on End Corporate Control of Our Politicians 2012-05-17 17:09:58 -0700 · Flag
Steve Dickheiser said: “The precautions the founders put in place have been systematically removed over time by Government with big money demanding it.”

I suppose We could identify and restore these precautions? With We The People demanding it?

Have these precautions been removed from Our Constitution?
Daniel Penisten commented on End Corporate Control of Our Politicians 2012-05-17 16:58:38 -0700 · Flag
Also, I read somewhere that we are buying military supplies from other nations…such as China. I wonder how wise that is? Shouldn’t the American Military be buying American?
Daniel Penisten commented on End Corporate Control of Our Politicians 2012-05-17 16:55:02 -0700 · Flag
Dan Flemming said: “Clearly our Defense Spending is married to Corporate America. That is why I call it a money transfer from tax payers to Defense contractors or a subsidy.”

Ahh. Thank you Dan Flemming. For some reason this last response of yours, just clarified in what i have to call my brain.

In other words you are simply saying that the “Industrial/Military Complex” is a collection of government agencies and specialized corporations and the government has to keep the military part supplied by using taxpayer dollars to pay for the corporate products that said military supplies are.

Further, the “Industrial/Military Complex” does not overtly sell its products or services and therefore has to depend on the taxpayer dollars to support it. We have to “subsidize” it…just about totally I reckon. Not like the partial subsidy of farmers, who do produce something to sell.

It looks like the ones who really make out on this deal is the corporations. They pay little taxes and receive Our Tax Dollars for their products and go even further by selling some of their products to foreign military establishments. Then to add insult to injury, they cut corners in quality and sell way too high.

I finally understand what you mean now. Thanks.

I’m all for changing this. At least reduce the costs of military departments and their activities. Many ways to achieve this have already been suggested here.
Daniel Penisten commented on End Corporate Control of Our Politicians 2012-05-17 11:24:53 -0700 · Flag
A good light you throw, upon my question, Fellow Patriot Steve Dickheiser. Thank you for the response.

How do We prevent Our Leaders, in all levels of society and government, from making their pockets available to the wealthy shadow world?

I wonder what it is like to to be offered inducements constantly and subtly? Even as threat if one doesn’t play? God! What a pressure that must be! How can We help them do what they are supposed to be doing? Should We be there with them? Stand by their side?

Hmmm…maybe this would be a good chore for some of our returning military forces…should they return. Every office holder and government functionary gets a well trained and armed “Companionship Guard” of up to twenty warriors. Not only trained in combat and “bodyguardism”, but also in American morality and ethics…and what compromises these values. They would be “Watchers Supreme”. Well knowing what to watch for.

But make sure these protectors from The People don’t have pockets to fill themselves. Sigh!

But shouldn’t We try?
Daniel Penisten commented on End Corporate Control of Our Politicians 2012-05-17 10:42:28 -0700 · Flag
Dan Flemming’s 4th suggestion is: “4) Put financial backing behind SEC, IRS, FBI to allow them to prosecute Financial Crimes in expensive court cases against the very rich or very powerful.”

Uh…what makes Us think that these bureaus would even want to prosecute the financial crimes of the 1%?

How might We change the nature of these government institutions…to make them effective in this quest?

Can We The People reduce the court expenses?
Daniel Penisten commented on End Corporate Control of Our Politicians 2012-05-17 10:30:28 -0700 · Flag
Thank you for the explanation about what you meant about your suggestion number 3:
" Call the Defense Industry a subsidy and a money transfer from taxpayers." It reveals what you are seeing and how you feel about this issue…but not why the words “subsidy” and “…money transfer from taxpayers.” should be applied in this context. Its probably just me. The old dunderhead strikes again. Forgive.

I agree with every one of the expensive and immoral phenomena, connected to the “industrial/military” complex, that you have thrown light on. Our strength should not be used this way. We should never throw the first punch…though an occasional show of force might serve peace some.

I think it would be good to discuss each point of your assessment, but I am not sure this communication string is the best place for that. Maybe, as well as open a poll section, the leaders of this website could open a “Industrial/Military” discussion string to give us a good place to explore what you have brought here.

My initial response to the “harm” that the industrial military complex is doing to Our Nation, including the economic strain of it, would be to vote for all American military forces to be brought “Home”. Some of it could be used to seal Our Borders and the rest put in reserve status. To release all these Men and Women back into Our Economy, might not be helpful…unless maybe most of them took up the banner of entrepreneurship and worker owned companies to help Our Economy. The corporations aren’t employing all of Us Workers now and I see no reason for them to do this in the future. The emphasis should be on a counter economy of Americans for Americans.

I could go on and on about this but won’t.

Thank you for the well considered and sincere response to my need to understand you better; regarding suggestion (3).
Daniel Penisten posted a note for Dan Flemming 2012-05-16 11:44:16 -0700
Howdy Mr. Flemming. You suggested in "End Corporate Control of Our Politicians": “3) Call the Defense Industry a subsidy and a money transfer from taxpayers." Could you please explain this to me a little more. It confuses me. Hope you are having a great day. Daniel Penisten
Daniel Penisten commented on End Corporate Control of Our Politicians 2012-05-15 08:01:35 -0700 · Flag
Dan Flemming’s third suggestion was:

“3) Call the Defense Industry a subsidy and a money transfer from taxpayers.

I don’t understand this one. Mr. Flemming? Would you please share more about this?
Daniel Penisten commented on End Corporate Control of Our Politicians 2012-05-14 19:34:40 -0700 · Flag
I feel protective of the word “Marriage”, or “Married” and consider it to be the historical and customary language and meaning domain of heterosexuals. This is from Christian and Other Religious roots. Heterosexuals were here first. It is their word to represent their beliefs and feelings about their civil unions.

Other sexual practitioners can come up with their own special word for their civil unions.

It seems intrusive for non-hetero sexual people to use the word, so long used by heterosexual people in keeping with their religious and spiritual beliefs.

But if We The People were to decide that this usage of the word “Marriage” by non-heterosexuals, is to be tolerated or accepted, I would not resist…other than maybe to not use the word that way myself. Believing it would be Better to say nothing and keep my True feelings to myself.

I would not be willing to get too upset over the misuse of a word.
Daniel Penisten commented on End Corporate Control of Our Politicians 2012-05-14 19:11:18 -0700 · Flag
Dan Flemming’s second suggestion was:

“2) End the War on Drugs and allow people access to marijuana and even other drugs. Consider depowering the AMA, FDA, and the medical monopoly on prescription drugs. Look at what other countries are doing.”

The influence of these drugs can be dangerous if one is trying to operate a vehicle, or other sensitive device. But this depends largely on the Individual. Some might be able do this safely while others cannot. I happen to be one who cannot.

But We do need laws against “Hemp” and hemp products to be erased. A flourishing Hemp Industry would help Us develop many jobs.

Be very careful about the legalization of “other drugs”. Some can turn a Human into one kind of nut or another. Addiction usually becomes ugly as it overpowers Human Standards Of Decency and reduces once stable, proud and independent persons into needy messes. Needy nuts are a “drag” on the Evolutionary Flow of Culture…depending on how many We are talking about.

The “AMA” and the “FDA” were supposed to be professional bureaus, that protected We The People from the depredations of corporations like those found in the Pharmaceutical Industry. In some ways they have gone too far and in others have not done enough. Judging from the “side effects” bulletins I see on drug commercials, on TV, I am afraid to try any new drug. The cure is often worse that the affliction…or so it sometimes seems.

I think a good case could be built for corruption charges, regarding the FDA and the Pharmaceutical Industry.

I haven’t looked at what other countries are doing yet. Might have to.
Daniel Penisten commented on End Corporate Control of Our Politicians 2012-05-14 18:40:23 -0700 · Flag
I don’t have much of an opinion about “Red Light Districts”. They can be fun, but dangerous if not properly regulated…including boundaries. But they could be a good source of tax revenue, same as certain natural herbal drugs. Let The People decide.

Maybe We should put this one on “the shelf”, until We “straighten out” the rest of Our Society?
Daniel Penisten commented on End Corporate Control of Our Politicians 2012-05-14 18:31:33 -0700 · Flag
In my opinion, religious comments regarding sexual preferences, while they might be “sanctimonious” and intolerant, are nevertheless based on a religion’s understanding of what is right with “God”. This is a spiritual matter and should be kept within the religion and its followers. They have a right to their beliefs, just as you have a right to yours. Live and let Live. Share your opinion about this only if you are asked.
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